From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #64 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, February 18 1999 Volume 08 : Number 064 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Then the tigers ate my parents [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: More Fegbooks [VIV LYON ] Re: The Angus Prune Show [Danielle ] Re: More Fegbooks [Christopher Gross ] Re: More Fegbooks [Michael R Godwin ] More Fegbooks ["she.rex" ] Re: refascistization, with a RH request at the end... [Christopher Gross ] Re: More Fegbooks [The Great Quail ] marquis ["Chaney, Dolph L" ] archy and mehitabel [Jon Fetter ] Re: archy and mehitabel [VIV LYON ] Fegbooks [Michael R Godwin ] Re: The Angus Prune Show [fred is ted ] [none] [amadain ] Re: Napalm, Krazy Kat [fred is ted ] Re: Paint It Black [Ken Ostrander ] Re: de Selby ["Daniel Saunders" ] fegbooks--fact verification [LORDK@library.phila.gov] "The Hot Rock" [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: "The Hot Rock" [Capuchin ] Re: The Angus Prune Show [Eb ] Whee(tm)! [Eb ] Annoying fans / the Goodies [Chris ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:51:13 -0500 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: Then the tigers ate my parents > Richard Brautigan's "In Watermelon Sugar." A bit too 60's San >Fran-scene for me sometimes, but still recommended fegfare. I would like some black, soundless watermelons, please. >"My Cousin, My Gasteroentologist" I can't remember who wrote this. >One non-sequitor after another. Mark Leyner. This book begs to be read aloud, very rapidly. Sample chapter title: "I was an infinitely hot and dense dot." >"He's not transforming. The mega-placenta has failed completely..." This is dialogue at its finest. Great stuff, Jon, keep up the good work! :) n. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:30:50 -0800 (PST) From: VIV LYON Subject: Re: More Fegbooks Jon said, and then asked: > Herriman also illustrated (and maybe wrote?) a great little book of > poetry about Mehitabel the Cat, the stories of whom were told to the poet > by a bookworm or a mouse, I can't remember which. Also lost in the great > neuron storm of 1988 were the poet's name and the name of the book. > Anybody know? That would be Archys Life of Mehitabel, told to the boss by one Archy, anarchist cockroach. It's very entertaining, but I like the poems about people more than the biography of Mehitabel. It's by Don...something. I'll type some poems in tomorrow. I'd been meaning to anyway. Funny. Vivien _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:33:40 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Subject: Re: The Angus Prune Show > GG, BO and TBT subsequently transferred to TV as 'The Goodies'. The > funniest episode was where they started a pirate radio station, but only > had one record - Horst Jankowski's 'A walk in the Black Forest'. Mr Godwin, despite the massive respect due to you as knower of all things arcane and British, I beg to differ. The funniest episode of The Goodies is the one where England is overrun by a plague of Rolf Harrises. A close runner up is their bouncing moon buggy tour of the world, I think... oh, how I miss that show. If any of you are familiar with Supergrass' video for 'Alright', I think its style is lifted pretty much directly from The Goodies. Though Bill Oddie did a lot more cross-dressing than Gaz and the boys. Danielle ('goodie goodie yum yum') PS James, isn't it nice to have our cricket team back to its usual dismal standard? ;) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:08:52 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: More Fegbooks On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, VIV LYON wrote: > That would be Archys Life of Mehitabel, told to the boss by one Archy, > anarchist cockroach. It's very entertaining, but I like the poems > about people more than the biography of Mehitabel. It's by > Don...something. Don Marquis. (Hey, I might not get paid much here, but at least I have access to WorldCat and Books in Print.) Apparently Faber published an _Archy and Mehitabel Omnibus_ just last year, so it should be readily available. The originals were published in the 1930s. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:10:14 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: More Fegbooks On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, VIV LYON wrote: > That would be Archys Life of Mehitabel, told to the boss by one Archy, > anarchist cockroach. It's very entertaining, but I like the poems > about people more than the biography of Mehitabel. It's by > Don...something. I'll type some poems in tomorrow. I'd been meaning to > anyway. Funny. don marquis archy types by jumping on the typewriter keys, but because he can only hit one key at a time, there are no shift characters - caps or parentheses or apostrophes - so it all comes out looking like e e cummings. - MRG "And now, this week's number one record, 'A walk in the Black Forest' by Horst Jankowski. And after the break, we'll have our tip for the top". ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:20:49 From: "she.rex" Subject: More Fegbooks >Herriman also illustrated (and maybe wrote?) a great little book of >poetry about Mehitabel the Cat, the stories of whom were told to the poet >by a bookworm or a mouse, I can't remember which. Also lost in the great >neuron storm of 1988 were the poet's name and the name of the book. >Anybody know? I have a book _archy and mehitabel_. There are no separate credits for the illustrations, so it's probably safe to assume Marquis did his own. The blurb on the back reads: - ----------- Don Marquis first introduced archy the cockroach and mehitabel a cat in her ninth life, in his newspaper column, _The Sun Dial_ in 1916. In a previous incarnation archy was a free-verse poet, while mehitabel's soul once belonged to Cleopatra. She is toujours gai [hey...?], but archy is more philosophical. It is he who records their songs and observations on the boss's typewriter late at night. But he's not strong enough to make capital letters so it all comes out lower case: the main question is whether the stuff is literature or not. It is. - ----------- I will further bore you with my favorite poem from the book: - ----------- the hen and the oriole well boss did it ever strike you that a hen regrets it just as much when they ring her neck as an oriole but nobody has any sympathy for a hen because she is not beautiful while everyone gets sentimental over the oriole and says how shocking to kill the lovely thing this thought comes to my mind because of the earnest endeavor of a gentleman to squash me yesterday afternoon when i was riding up in the elevator if i had been a butterfly he would have said how did that beautiful thing happen to find its way into these grimy city streets do not harm the splendid creature but let it fly back to its rural haunts agian beauty always gets the best of it be beautiful boss a thing of beauty is a joy forever be handsome boss and let who will be clever is the sad advice of your ugly little friend archy - ----------- Don't worry - I won't put all that on the bookpage! But I will list the book. Thanks for the memory! Also a feg science book: Paul Davies' _The Mind of God_ (title taken from a quote by Stephen Hawking, who said when we finally figure out the law of everything, then we will know the mind of God.) This is a sort of introduction to physics and how one theory has led to another. See the bookpage for my review. She.Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:30:12 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: refascistization, with a RH request at the end... On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 DDerosa5@aol.com wrote: > PS In terms of Robyn content, I am interested in being a tapetree-type--can > one do this and not get all the mail everyday? Personally, the tapes I have > heard aobut that interest me most are the unhatched crablings and, OH PLEASE > OH PLEASE, > the tape where Robyn covers Dylan's "Albert Hall" concert. Can anyone help me? You probably made a mistake in putting this at the end of a political post - -- I suspect a lot of Fegs just skip 'em, even when RH is mentioned in the subject line! ... For info on joining the tape tree, your best bet is to e-mail Bayard: . Now back to the icky-stuff.... > From what I've read (and I've worked in many bookstores, > so don't challenge me yet for citations), Greece after WWII was a country > likely to be given over to those dirty commies, so we attacked it/occupied it > after the war and made sure friendly "neighborhood watch" regimes were in > place. Sort of. After the Germans withdrew from Greece, Britain sent in occupation forces. Churchill supported the monarchist government in exile, even though (unlike, say, the Polish government in exile or the Free French) they hadn't done anything except sit on their thumbs waiting for the Allies to win the war and hand Greece back to them. At this point, the Communists, who led the main Greek resistance group (though most of its troops weren't Communists), tried to seize power, and the British put them down. The Greek monarchist government behaved pretty badly, both by general incompetence and specifically by rehabilitating many former collaborators with the Italians and Germans; still, they weren't fascists as such. The Communists soon recovered from their defeat by the British, and civil war broke out in Greece. The British backed the Greek government with weapons, advisors, etc. After a few years -- in 1947, if memory serves -- the bankrupt British decided they couldn't afford to prop up Greece anymore, so at *that* point the US took over. Note that Greece was not due to be "given over" to the Communists; in fact, Stalin agreed to count Greece in the British sphere of influence and gave only scant aid to the Greek Communists. Nor was it a suppression of a popular uprising, since the Communists had only modest popular support even during the war and less afterwards. > If I remember my enviro history, Greece was (during that campaign) also > the first country ever to get to experience the ingenuity of Dow Chemical's > new product, Napalm. (lucky them they turned into an ally!) It's just a side issue, but anyway, this is incorrect; napalm was already in use in World War II, before the Greek civil war. > Italy was also made sure it went to those we trusted to be sufficiently anti- > Red, but in that case it was primarily organized crime types (we gave them > back Lucky Luciano: here, I know the citation, McCoy's Politics of Heroin), > but not actual fascists. Hell, they believe in capitalism more than me... In Italy, we made sure that there was a democratically-elected government. Shocking! (Notoriously, the CIA helped fund anti-Communist parties in the Italian election of 1948; but it's debatable how much difference this made. I've never seen any claims that the Communists would have won a majority in 1948 without this CIA aid to their opponents, so even if we "blame" the CIA for reducing the number of Communists elected, they weren't really responsible for the "crime" of keeping Italy in the capitalist world. Credit for that can go to the Italian electorate.) The Christian Democrats, who formed the government after that election (and most subsequent ones for the next few decades), were just as anti-Fascist as the Communists themselves. The Mafia predates America's involvement in Italy by, oh, a few centuries. You could blame the US, though, for releasing all the folks undemocratically imprisoned by the Fascists -- including mafiosi. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 99 11:31:57 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: More Fegbooks Jon Jon'zz Martian Bughunter writes: > "My Cousin, My Gasteroentologist" I can't remember who wrote this. >One non-sequitor after another. Mark Leyner, who wrote the even funnier "Et Tu, Babe." Sometimes he's a wee bit too Gen-X clever for me, but he's definitely worth it -- sort of Douglas Coupland does magical realism on acid. > "Vurt" by Jeff Noon. One of my favorite modern books -- much more politically lightweight than "Clockwork Orange," which it is often compared to, but nevertheless as exciting, disturbing, and mind-blowing a read. Explores virtual reality and drugs in a way that's amazingly fresh, surprising, and quite twisted. > The mention of Neruda reminded me of another South American poet >who is even more surreal and abstract...curse my memory and lack of library >access, can't remember his name either. I'll post that when and if I >remember. Octavio Paz? > And for good books (but not necessarily fegbooks), everyone >mentioned on The Quail's Libyrinth page. Particularly Borges, Eco, Robert >Anton Wilson, and the guy who wrote "Dictionary of the Khazars." Milorad Pavic; sort of a Serbo-Croatian Eco. By the way, I have managed to keep out of this discussion; talking about my favorite books and what I think is "postmodern" or strange enough to be Feggish is, well, er . . . just go to the URL below, you know? It will save me the trouble of boring the List with a twelve-page post. - -- Umquailto Echo PS: I also contend that the most Feggish author is Edward Gorey. And you should all take Jon's advice on Russell Edson. He's not *like* the rest of us. . . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth "Countlessness of livestories have netherfallen by this plage, flick as flowflakes, litters from aloft, like a waast wizzard all of whirlworlds. Now are all tombed to the mound, isges to isges, erde from erde . . . (Stoop) if you are abcedminded, to this claybook, what curious of signs (please stoop) in this allaphbed! Can you rede (since We and Thou had it out already) its world? . . . Speak to us of Emailia!" --James Joyce, Finnegans Wake ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:13:08 -0500 From: "Chaney, Dolph L" Subject: marquis go see http://www.sfo.com/~batt/archy/ --a few of the poems for a sampling. I Heart Fegs! Dolph now playing: Michelle Malone, Beneath The Devil Moon now reading for the first time: Marquis, the lives and times of archy and mehitabel, 1950 ed (with Herriman illustrations and intro by E.B. White) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 01:42:53 +0800 From: Jon Fetter Subject: archy and mehitabel i am really pleasedto see the number of people on the list who have read that book by don marquis. wot a list...thanks to all for the authors name and book title. >I have a book _archy and mehitabel_. There are no separate credits for the >illustrations, so it's probably safe to assume Marquis did his own. The >blurb on the back reads: > i thought the illustrations, prose style and philosophy very similar to herrimans work, and assumed a pseudonym. i still think the illustrations may be by herriman--the poems were published in the paper in 1916--krazy kat started around the same time [krazy and ignatz first appeared in print in a little space of their own in one of herrimans earlier comics], and he could have been moonlighting. i havent seen the book for ten years, so my memory could be way off yet again. maybe the omnibus mentions herriman in some kind of omnibus-preface. stand and deliver, jon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:47:11 -0800 (PST) From: VIV LYON Subject: Re: archy and mehitabel Jon et al.- > i thought the illustrations, prose style and philosophy very > similar to herrimans work, and assumed a pseudonym. i still think the > illustrations may be by herriman--the poems were published in the paper in > 1916--krazy kat started around the same time [krazy and ignatz first > appeared in print in a little space of their own in one of herrimans > earlier comics], and he could have been moonlighting. This I can answer with no equivocation. It was Herriman. My copy of Archys Life of Mehitabel clearly states that the artwork is courtesy George Herriman. Vivien "Gentlemen. Mr. B Natural had breasts. Of this there can be no doubt."- Crow T. Robot _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:14:07 +0000 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Fegbooks Hey, well if you fegs can cite Don Marquis and George Herriman, I have to put forward a case for James Thurber, who really did do the illustrations for his own books. I like the Fables for Our Time and the Further Fables for Our Time, to say nothing of those illustrated stories like The Day the Dam Broke and The Night the Bed Fell. And what about the cartoons, like 'OK have it your way, you heard a seal bark'? His later stuff gets a bit loopy and morbid, though, mainly people yelling at one another at cocktail parties. Still, I quite liked the one about the man who argued that Donald Duck was a greater actor than Great Garbo... - - Mike (6 posts per day won't do me any harm) Godwin PS And what about '20,000 leagues under the sea or David Copperfield' by Robert Benchley? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:27:29 -0800 (PST) From: fred is ted Subject: Re: The Angus Prune Show - ---Danielle wrote: > > GG, BO and TBT subsequently transferred to TV as 'The Goodies'. The> > funniest episode was where they started a pirate radio station, but> only > > had one record - Horst Jankowski's 'A walk in the Black Forest'. > Mr Godwin, despite the massive respect due to you as knower of all> things arcane and British, I beg to differ. The funniest episode of> The Goodies is the one where England is overrun by a plague of Rolf > Harrises. A close runner up is their bouncing moon buggy tour of the> world, I think... oh, how I miss >that show. All of the above sound great. I've only seen one episode, but it was, um, a goodie--where they practice the martial art of "Ecky Thump." I vaguely recall them smacking each other with sausages. Hope I'm not hallucinating here. I'm off to find a Goodies page! > Danielle ('goodie goodie yum yum') Yay! "Goodies... goodie goodie yum yum" :) Ted "Yeah, we get high on music" Kim Deal _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:57:48 -0600 From: amadain Subject: [none] Ghost Surfer a ecrit: >You can go to the Ezio gig at the Shepherd Bush Empire on the 5'th of >March then. Despite having no label or manager, they're putting on a >spectacular at the Empire and are recording the event. You can also >celebrate RH's birthday in his home town. Bet you can't wait. Sorry about the late reply. I have hotmail filtered out and only see posts from hotmailers when I read the archives. Nothing personal to anybody there, it's the amount of spam that comes from there or has a forged hotmail addy. Though at the rate aol's going, I may have to take the step of filtering them too, I only haven't done it because I know so many there. Anyhoo..... Well, we can't ezackly do that because we're only there til the 1st. Same for celebrating Robyn's birthday, I'm afraid. But it was a nice thought :). Psst....other gigs of interest that will be going on this week (Friday to next Monday the 1st)? I guess I'll check Time Out when we get there. Love on ya, Susan this time tomorrow, I'll be somewhere over the Atlantic! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:48:44 -0800 (PST) From: fred is ted Subject: Re: Napalm, Krazy Kat - ---Christopher Gross wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 DDerosa5@aol.com wrote: > > If I remember my enviro history, Greece was (during that campaign) also> > the first country ever to get to experience the ingenuity of Dow Chemical's > > new product, Napalm. (lucky them they turned into an ally!) > It's just a side issue, but anyway, this is incorrect; napalm was already > in use in World War II, before the Greek civil war. Smile when you say "side issue," bub. Napalm is my dissertation topic, very tentatively titled "Smells Like Victory." :) First used in the New Guinea campaign, early 1943. Napalm was originally manufatured by the Standard Oil Co. of N.J. Invented by a kooky Harvard chemistry prof looking for a way to get rid of crabgrass in his backyard. Boy, talk about a lack of proportion. That's like devising the atomic bomb as away to warm one's mittens in the morning. Spurious RH connection? The Britsh used perspex as a thickening agent in the place of Napalm in their fire weapons. Krazy Kat: Oh so wonderful. Beautifully drawn, consistently hilarious. Quite like RH in the playful use of language, absurd goings on and surreal settings, and a great sense of humor to boot. Highly feg-recommended. Ted "Yeah, we get high on music" Kim Deal _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:31:37 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: Paint It Black ok, i get it "red door" refers to the red light district. the line of black cars is a funeral. lots of images that evoke lust like "girls...dressed in their summer clothes" and "my green sea" becoming the frustration of "a deeper blue". apart from the blackness in his "heart" and "whole world" and his desire to "not have to face the facts", there is no real mention of murder. it's not that much of a stretch; but it is a stretch. i wouldn't put it past mick; but he has been much less obtuse. ken "seen too much in too few years" the kenster Paint it Black (M. Jagger/K. Richards) I see a red door and I want it painted black No colors anymore I want them to turn black I see the girls walk by dressed in their summer clothes I have to turn my head until my darkness goes I see a line of cars and they're all painted black With flowers and my love both never to come back I see people turn their heads and quickly look away Like a new born baby it just happens ev'ry day I look inside myself and see my heart is black I see my red door and it has been painted black Maybe then I'll fade away and not have to face the facts It's not easy facin' up when your whole world is black No more will my green sea go turn a deeper blue I could not foresee this thing happening to you If I look hard enough into the settin' sun My love will laugh with me before the mornin' comes I see a red door and I want it painted black No colors anymore I want them to turn black I see the girls walk by dressed in their summer clothes I have to turn my head until my darkness goes Hmm, hmm, hmm,... I wanna see it painted, painted black Black as night, black as coal I wanna see the sun blotted out from the sky I wanna see it painted, painted, painted, painted black Yeah! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:32:55 -0800 (PST) From: "Daniel Saunders" Subject: Re: de Selby > Michael> I have just consulted 'The Third Policeman' and it > Michael> actually makes no mention of de Selby's fate. Possibly > Michael> Hatchjaw's 'de Selby's Life and Times' might be > Michael> informative. > > Actually, O'Brien's "The Dalkey Archive" (which I assume to be set > later than T3P) mentions Argentina. Blue Meanie #1: It is no longer a blue world! Wherever shall we go? Blue Meanie #2: Argentina? Daniel Saunders ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:07:59 -0500 From: LORDK@library.phila.gov Subject: fegbooks--fact verification I said something bout Charles Williams belonging to a version of the Golden Dawn--and yes, its very verifiable. A.E.Waite came to promineince in the post-Mather remains of the original Golden Dawn. Waite wanted to take it in a more mystical, less magical direction, Felkin and Yeats, among others, objected. Waite left to form his own order, which still, for awhile, had ties with the other remnant of the GD(niether of which, I believe(this is potted history here pulled out of a hat)(think large ficus or palm), was in touch with Mathers and his restoration of the Stuarts thing). Waite rewrote GD material to suit an esoteric Christian standpoint, but it was still GD based. Its all documented in Gilbert somewhere--I will get the proper scholarly poof(in solidarity to the continuing saga of Tinky Winky and Mr Jones.) UTM K ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:06:03 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: "The Hot Rock" Well, I just finished my second listen to the forthcoming new release from Sleater-Kinney. It's darn good! It'll be a while before I have a good idea of how I think it'll stack up to "Dig Me Out," but I'm definitely sure that I'll like it quite a bit. The promo I got was in a plain cardboard slip cover, so, come Tuesday, I'll get to read the lyrics and get an even better impression of the album. Oh, and on the poster, Portland Fegs can witness a southwardly shot of the three Sleater-chicks hailing a cab on Broadway, the big "Portland" sign (what building id that on again? one of the performing arts complexes, right?) and the West Hills in the background. Cool. Portland rules! :-) - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:33:28 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: "The Hot Rock" On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 MARKEEFE@aol.com wrote: > Oh, and on the poster, Portland Fegs can witness a southwardly shot of the > three Sleater-chicks hailing a cab on Broadway, the big "Portland" sign (what > building id that on again? one of the performing arts complexes, right?) It's on the Schnitz (the Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall, for non-P-town kids). The Schnitz is part of the Portland Center for the Performing Arts on the next block over... separated by the best little street in town... the one with the little lighted gates that close and say STREET CLOSED whenever there's a show at the concert hall or in the Winningstead Theater. > and > the West Hills in the background. Cool. Portland rules! :-) Portland, does, in fact, rule. I'd just like to point out to the world that John Barrington Jones and Michael K. are both transplants to our great city and fit in quite well. We don't hate ALL foreigners. Welcome. Je. (Oh, and did I mention that I used to work with Janet Weiss? I think I did.) - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:39:29 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: The Angus Prune Show Dimsie: >If any of you are familiar with Supergrass' video for 'Alright', I >think its style is lifted pretty much directly from The Goodies. Uhh, I believe it's widely agreed that its style is lifted pretty much directly from the MONKEES...particularly the show's opening credits, what with the travelling bed and all. And I don't think you can find any such cutesy teen-idol imaging in the Goodies' arguably amusing oeuvre.... Ain't that right, Terrence? ;) Susan: >Sorry about the late reply. I have hotmail filtered out and only see posts >from hotmailers when I read the archives. Oho! I guess we won't see a faceoff between Eddie and Susan anytime soon. Eb PS re "Paint It Black": Why can't the Stones write lyrics like that anymore? Man.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:37:40 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Whee(tm)! I just heard that Tom Waits advances are available!! I'm even more eager about this than XTC.... Eb, running to the phone PS Speaking of advances, I just got the new Olivia Tremor Control. I'll let you know how it is.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:17:50 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Subject: Annoying fans / the Goodies Glen Uber wrote- >These two yuppies standing behind me kept talking: "Oh, why did he play >this song?", "When is he going to play something we know?". When >they weren't making comments like that, they just kept yapping. Finally, >Paul and co. play "Fool On The Hill", and the guy goes (I am NOT making >this up): "Play something we know, Paul!". And his yuppie love muffin says >(I'm still not making this up): "Yeah, play a Beatles' song!" Oh my god! That is great, in a horrible sort of way. That reminds me of a couple of things - when the movie "Spinal Tap" first came out, I went to see it at the theatre. The guy a couple rows behind me was saying to his friend, "Have you ever heard these guys? My brother used to like them. He's got a bunch of their albums." Even worse, I was in a record store, and a teenager was looking for Spinal Tap albums. He asked the clerk for help. As the clerk brought him over to the Spinal Tap section, he asked the kid, "have you heard any of their earlier albums? They used to sound really different than they are now." I looked at the clerk, thinking he had to be kidding around, but he was dead serious! He proceeded to talk to the kid, with that condescending- chain store- record clerk tone, about how they used to be psychedelic, and were even around in the early 60's. My husband and I had to leave the store as we were getting hysterical. Lastly, I leave you with this sad story. My huband used to work with someone who insisted he had an "original" copy of the Eddie and the Cruisers album. When my husband tried to explain to the guy that it was a soundtrack to a movie, and that they weren't really a band, the guy kept saying, "but I got an ORIGINAL copy of the record, and it's worth a lot of money." AARRGGHHHHHH!!!!!! Then Michael R Godwin wrote- >GG, BO and TBT subsequently transferred to TV as 'The Goodies'. The >funniest episode was where they started a pirate radio station, but only >had one record - Horst Jankowski's 'A walk in the Black Forest'. Public Television showed the Goodies for a while back in 1976. I used to love that show. I haven't seen it since though. I'd love to see it again. Is that available on video in the US? The only episode I really remember was the one where they took a job as lighthouse keepers. The punch line was that they had thought the job ad said light house keeping. Bill Oddie was always my favorite. Can anyone tell me what he's doing now? Still on sitcoms/comedy shows? Chris ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #64 ******************************